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  That's it......

  by whathehadas in

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  2. experiences

  this might be my last post.

  i've had quite a few things on my mind over the past few years, mainly my belief in god.

  i've tried to move on from the jw past but that's really being foolish.

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  Dismissing servant

  I agree with Steve..time is on your side...but yes, learning normal life can take years, it's an interesting jorney doing it. I left when I was your age...there were som hard years in the beginning, and some hard times now and then.

  You seem to be in a band playing the guitar in your pic. That's great...learning "normal life" by activities...engage yourself in different organised activities with worldley people...this helped me a lot!

  Hmm, Wayne Dyer.. I read some of his books in the 1980's . It's a good read....as Steven Hassan. Go for it! :)
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  Because The Governing Body Is In Denial They Can Not Comprehend The Suffering They Impose Upon Jehovah's Witnesses With Their No Blood And Disfellowshiping Policies

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  denial works it horrors on the needless suffering they cause their members.

  denial about their god delusion, denial about their faulty policies, denial about children dying in vain over some stupid ban on blood.

  if it is one thing the governing body do best it's denial, and denial is a killer in their case and the death toll will keep rising until they can face the facts, instead of pushing them away with denial.. yes they hear but only with annoyance any facts about their biblical interpetation as being wrong and delusional, because the stakes are high; their position as corporation ceos, a better future for their followers, the future of the corporation they are running, i'm surprised that none of them hasn't attempted suicide over the dilemma they are in over this denial thing, surely some must see the 'writing on the wall' so to speak?.

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  Hmm, a matter of definition........what could be more cognitive dissonant than believing in something you know is not true?

  In case it's not dissanance they have to "suffer" from some kind of dissociative disorder or multi personality disorder.

  So, OK...maybe their "cult personae" are believers , but their natural or true personae realizethat it's wrong. Maybe then cognitive dissonance is somewhat related to dissociative syndroms...e g the different personae cult researchers like Steven Hassan is talking obout!

  One religion psychologist professor here in Sweden (Owe Wikström) uses the expresion "two floor people" about the cognitive dissonant. At he top floor/upper level they are rational and well funktioning, but in the bottom floor/basement you have a lot of irrational thoughts and fears that cripples them.

  In some weay this is related to the splitting in different personae (Hassan) , which I see as some kind of dissociative disorder.
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  How do BACs and JWs explain animals that practice "homosexual" activities?

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i absolutely love watching the animal channel and just observing the animal kingdom has really brought up some serious questions for any devout anti-gay religions such as born-again christians(bacs) and jws.

  some animals such as deers practice lesbianism when there is no male deer around.

  i almost fell out of my chair when watching this.

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  Ohh deer....no, oh dear!

  Good idea, but let him make slow and steady steps in his apostate progress.!:-)
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  Because The Governing Body Is In Denial They Can Not Comprehend The Suffering They Impose Upon Jehovah's Witnesses With Their No Blood And Disfellowshiping Policies

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  denial works it horrors on the needless suffering they cause their members.

  denial about their god delusion, denial about their faulty policies, denial about children dying in vain over some stupid ban on blood.

  if it is one thing the governing body do best it's denial, and denial is a killer in their case and the death toll will keep rising until they can face the facts, instead of pushing them away with denial.. yes they hear but only with annoyance any facts about their biblical interpetation as being wrong and delusional, because the stakes are high; their position as corporation ceos, a better future for their followers, the future of the corporation they are running, i'm surprised that none of them hasn't attempted suicide over the dilemma they are in over this denial thing, surely some must see the 'writing on the wall' so to speak?.

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  Dismissing servant

  As usual, you nailed it, Outlaw! With you mere presence in this thread!

  A well functioning person appreciates freedom, has a good sence of humour.......and has the ability to enjoy good things in life, like fried chicken and beer! :D Hmm, and music and women, I hope.

  Maybe some of us have tendency to intellectualize or psychologize......................it's interesting....but those things mentioned abouve is probably better in the long run! :)
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  Because The Governing Body Is In Denial They Can Not Comprehend The Suffering They Impose Upon Jehovah's Witnesses With Their No Blood And Disfellowshiping Policies

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  denial works it horrors on the needless suffering they cause their members.

  denial about their god delusion, denial about their faulty policies, denial about children dying in vain over some stupid ban on blood.

  if it is one thing the governing body do best it's denial, and denial is a killer in their case and the death toll will keep rising until they can face the facts, instead of pushing them away with denial.. yes they hear but only with annoyance any facts about their biblical interpetation as being wrong and delusional, because the stakes are high; their position as corporation ceos, a better future for their followers, the future of the corporation they are running, i'm surprised that none of them hasn't attempted suicide over the dilemma they are in over this denial thing, surely some must see the 'writing on the wall' so to speak?.

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  Dismissing servant

  Yes, that might be the psychological term for it, Frankie! I haven't used that word since the 1980's! :-)

  And yes, Vidiot, I agree...an interesting thought......the GB are effected by cognitive dissonance (at lest if they are true believers) but their makes the dissonance copletely different from e g a sister (publisher) with no power att all in the organisation.

  Could gognitive dissonance and megalomania be ....."overlapping" psychological phenomena? Or maybe is cognitive dissonance a part of megalomania......a megalomaniac can't be well functioning in his cognitive processes.
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  Because The Governing Body Is In Denial They Can Not Comprehend The Suffering They Impose Upon Jehovah's Witnesses With Their No Blood And Disfellowshiping Policies

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  denial works it horrors on the needless suffering they cause their members.

  denial about their god delusion, denial about their faulty policies, denial about children dying in vain over some stupid ban on blood.

  if it is one thing the governing body do best it's denial, and denial is a killer in their case and the death toll will keep rising until they can face the facts, instead of pushing them away with denial.. yes they hear but only with annoyance any facts about their biblical interpetation as being wrong and delusional, because the stakes are high; their position as corporation ceos, a better future for their followers, the future of the corporation they are running, i'm surprised that none of them hasn't attempted suicide over the dilemma they are in over this denial thing, surely some must see the 'writing on the wall' so to speak?.

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  Dismissing servant

  In some way denial is more or less a part of the cognitive dissonance.....or at least some pseudo-denial.

  In some way the GB might understand and be aware of all suffering, but sice obeying is more important than free thaought and a good life (before the big A) the suffering is considered irrelevant.

  They also have some compensation theory......every loyal believer will be compensated in the paradise, therefore...again.....suffering is irrelevant.

  Besides....suffering makes the believers more dependent of hope of something better in the future.....not to stop suffering now, such a stop is just for the time, not a permanent stop. So, yes, my idea is that suffering is irrelevant for cult personalities...at least others suffering. It's very cynical.......moraly worse than plain psychological denying.
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  Jehovah's Witness cemetery trolls disrupt a Mothers grief

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witness cemetery trolls disrupt a mothers grief .

  http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/13013058-95/ray-duckler-witnessing-a-mothers-sorrow-at-a-very-private-moment.

  by ray duckler.

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  LOL...jgnat..indeed you are very strict with your hubby.......poor fellow! :D

  Maybe he needs that kind of "discipline"?
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  Indianapolis Assembly Hall Chorus AMAZING!

  by NoMoreHustle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is what wt has been producing, this had my bottom jaw on the carpet while i was watching (like the footloose one).

  and they say there different from other religions yeah right!!.

  i hope this link works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vahglagd2i.

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  Dismissing servant

  MAybe the GB are beginning to understand that people, even JW', have different talents. And that a lot of JW are bored to death because they can't use their talent. I think they are going to "normalize" JW lifestyle a bit...the have to, they are losing the best of the young.

  And maybe they will reduce D2D preaching....so the JW's will get more time for doing this stuff.
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  Advice about going to Meetings...................oh why didn't I listen...LOL!!!!!

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been back to meetings for a month now.

  prepared for them all except for when i went on holiday.. todays wt is about jehovah's organisation, it's clear loaded language and manipulation through fear.

  i am not perturbed by it in the least.

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  Dismissing servant

  Why don't you tell the doctor about this situation?

  Show him the WT articlte from 1987 about giving away confidential information.
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  Have you reconnected with ex-JW's after you have left the Borg?

  by EdenOne in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after reading from another thread, i felt it was worth asking this question.. if you left the borg on your own, have you attempted to meet others whom you used to be connected with while you were "in", but who have also become ex-jw's before or after you have left the wts?

  if that's the case, has it remained a friendship, or the connection grew cold?

  just curious as to what keeps friendships "stick" [or not] once you no longer have the borg's doctrinal glue.. your experiences are welcome.. eden.

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  Dismissing servant

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